For giggles, I decided to post a few comments that Players have made about stealing in another thread. I think it sheds some light on the discussion.
iplaylarkinor
Posts: 238
Registered: Jan, 2006
Re: Character harrassment Posted: Feb 18, 2006 3:33 AM
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Ruining the game for everyone else? It is PART of the game. If you don't like it you should not have subscribed?
You whine about being attacked by players 10+ levels higher than yourself, but if you are on God-Mode, then you take on the risk, and is thus YOUR fault for them being able to attack you in the first place.
My thief is level 19, i personally steal from YOU every chance that i get, along with EVERY OTHER PLAYER THAT I CAN. Stop whinning and play the game or quit.
Raiken
Posts: 72
Registered: May, 2004
Re: Character harrassment Posted: Feb 18, 2006 3:50 AM
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Simple solution, dont hang around cc on god mode. If you like to hunt monsters on god, fine, but switch back to shy once you enter cc. Pvps are approved in larkinor and is not a harrassment, except on certain terms. Read the Terms of Service. Same thing goes for stealing off other characters. Anyone else you wish to discuss, you may speak to the mods and see what they think.
Gen 3 wrastle
Posts: 564
Registered: Oct, 2004
Re: Character harrassment Posted: Feb 18, 2006 3:58 AM
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Listen geoc, I agree with you on this sort of thing. It just bites to be hunted down by other players who you couldn't possibly defend yourself against. But face it - there are people out there who do just that. Even I can't help attack a lower-level player a time here or there. Just stay off of god mode when around those kinds of players.
Cinder
Posts: 524
Registered: Apr, 2003
Re: Character harrassment Posted: Feb 18, 2006 4:01 AM
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ooooooooooooook....
Harassing? To be harassing you, thieves would have to be deliberately targeting you...Don't think so, frankly I and most thieves dont take the time or energy to click your character and see "who" you are, if you've got a green cash sign beside your name I'll click it first, ask questions...or actually notice who you are...later.
So you've payed your sub, congrats and welcome to larkinor...but anyone thats stolen from you has also payed to play. If they hadnt..they couldnt steal from you. They paid to play the game within the confines of the rules, same as you did, so if they build a thief character, theyre gonna use it. The fact that XP is halved after reaching a rank of 200, and we gain no % towards out next rank UNLESS we steal from players, means thieves are ALWAYS going to be in the CC...its the wateringhole of the Larkinor savanagh...everyone has to pass through eventually.
Now I DO agree with you that if a particular thief is chasing JUST you around larkinor that DOES constitute harrassment, and would need dealing with. But if this is confined to the CC and market, sorry but youre fair game.
Iplay covered the getting attacked point amply I think...its just a risk you take playing on godmode...try lowering your rank when you need to visit the CC and just stay on god when fighting monsters.
And while on the topic of Iplay....hey "stop whining or quit"??? - not helpful. Debate the points made if you want. But sweeping remarks like that really only serve to fuel the "arrogant players" personna Geoc was refering to.
Cinder.
(Rant over)
ilostmyotherself
Posts: 97
Registered: May, 2005
Re: Character harrassment Posted: Feb 18, 2006 4:08 AM
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I also am lower ranked, and I get stolen from by higher level players repeatedly. But I choose to go to CC. The only thing there that I cannot find elsewhere is the palace. It is well known that the risk is much higher in CC, and if you still choose to go, that it a risk you are obviously willing to take. Also, to go on God mode, again, a risk you are taking. Upper level players do not atack you for the famepoints, they do it because you are the one who is being arrogant, being on god mode. You cannot choose how others play, as you said so yourself.....
"These players seem to think that they have some game given right to dictate how I play my character and whether or not I should be allowed to play at all."
You seem to want it both ways in that you wish to choose how others play, but not to have your playing changed in any way to accomodate anyone else. This is not only unlikely, but also hypocritical.
Next, you say you have a thief but that you dont steal from anyone ranked lower than yourself. That again, is a choice you make. There are rules and standards in place already, no one may steal from anyone less than level 12, or 15 if on shy mode.
Recap:
1.) DONT go to CC if you dont want to get stolen from.
2.) DONT go on god mode if you dont want to fight.
3.) DONT expect others to make the same choices you do.
4.) DONT take it personally...no one is out to get you....or they werent before at least.
5.) DO play to have fun.
Well, I feel better....TeT
KillingmeSoftly
Posts: 119
Registered: Mar, 2005
Re: Character harrassment Posted: Feb 18, 2006 10:38 AM
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Looks like Geoc has been possessed by the same spirit as Jaird was a few weeks ago, aaaaaaah
Two Quick Responses - :
Fighting; don't go on God mode if you don't want to risk it, it's the flip side of seeing more monsters - you'll see more of us to. If you're on God again I may feel the need to remind you of this again.
Thieving; it's part of the game I see to suffer worst than most as I carry many nicer goodies for the likes of Kit and Braves. I've lost nubs, putty, alien gadgets, dragongrass, hearts, crests etc - its part of the game. If you ask though they will either repost it at 50% or may even fight you to get it back. In exceptional circumstances i.e. if building they may give you free passage.
Arrogant Players; very few of the higher levels are "arrogant" and it you come into chat they will give you a fair chance. After only a few weeks "chatting" I feel I've made many "friends", I do not generally make friends with arrogant people - you do the maths. The only thing threatening the game is noobs who come in demanding the earth, swearing, flooding and destroying the game for those who enjoy it.
Subscribing; the game is available for free, you're payment of money only gives you beneifts. You should not expect to deprive others of what they have paid for - stealing etc. You knew the game when you subscribed, in doing so you accepted the way the game is played - many pay just to rob/steal, live with it.
Best Wishes playing the game, hope to see you in chat. Everyone is welcome, we do not harrass.
KmS
I know my "two" turned into "four", but you know what they say - once you pop you just can't stop.
Montsegur
Posts: 635
Registered: Feb, 2005
Re: Character harrassment Posted: Feb 18, 2006 2:23 PM
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I propose we start TADL (Thief Anti-Defamation League)
We need protection, we will no longer put up with being 2nd class citizens and objects of abuse.
I am a Thief. Hath not a Thief eyes? Hath not a Theif hands,organs,dimensions,senses,affections,passions? fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases,healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a non thief is? If you prick us do we not bleed? f you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Thief wrong a non thief what is his humility? Revenge. If a non theif wrong a Thief what should his sufferance be by non thief example? Why, revenge. The villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.